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Post by blue on Jun 20, 2011 10:28:22 GMT 12
Have a wonderful week ladies
xR
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Post by Donna on Jun 20, 2011 11:12:52 GMT 12
Hi all... hoping you all have a great week too... 1 step forward and 2 backwards on my project I'm afraid.. lol It's been noted that I haven't made a transition from 2D to 3D in that I'm sculpting 'flat', particularly faces. So I have to take a step back and study 3D images and guides, bone structure and muscle tones before I can continue... I've printed off some good guides now of sculls and 3D digital imaging. Blue has sent me some very helpful images as well and given me some valuable advice so hopefully all will go fine from now on... So much to learn huh! but the basics must be accomplished first. Soooo... I had to slice and dice with the scalpel, back to the bone.. eeeeeek what made that weird was my horrible boys 'forced' me to watch the 2nd Hannibal movie the other night... if you've seen it you'll know why it creeped me out slicing off the face...  Onward and upward... have a great day... ;D |
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Post by blue on Jun 20, 2011 12:03:56 GMT 12
OH DONNA ! Hangs head.......... I feel so mean! *Publicly Flogs self* Your doing just great. And Youll do even better than you imagined by the time your finished  Its all for the positive so its allll good  all on the up and up. Your are fabulously talented and you are doing a great job : ) xr |
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Post by Donna on Jun 20, 2011 13:09:06 GMT 12
Nah you weren't mean at all... I saw it myself and so did Damien...
I absolutely welcome constructive criticism, I don't want to keep making the same mistakes over and never being happy with the result... I'm so lucky to have you lot to help me be a better sculptor.
We were talking about how a lot of artists can be recognised by their style of faces... well I don't want to be recognised as 'the flat face sculptor' heeeeheeee!!!!
;D
A bit more study then I'll be back to re-doing.
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Post by fantail on Jun 20, 2011 17:37:19 GMT 12
Good luck with the studying Donna
Sculpting is one of those for ever learning subjects
I too find it hard to get the facets of the face right- wonder if I'll ever fully understand it
Doing some more tests
I tried to see if I could bleach some t-shirt material - not the right colour
Tried to paint a pattern with acrylic- it bleeds a bit and I don''t want the paint to be thick either
then I tried Genesis- still have to bake it to see if it will withstand the oven
You won't be recognized as a flat face sculptor by any means Donna
Keep up the great work
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Post by jules on Jun 20, 2011 20:00:55 GMT 12
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Post by jules on Jun 20, 2011 20:05:59 GMT 12
Its never easy going from one style of art to another
But dont give up Donna, you will get there in the end
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Post by fantail on Jun 20, 2011 20:57:10 GMT 12
Cute little snugglie babies and I love the baskets you made ,Jules
Thank you for posting some photos of your work
Do you still have a lot to do before the craft show?
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Post by Donna on Jun 20, 2011 21:35:46 GMT 12
Jules Thanks for sharing... I adore your snuggle babies, they are soooo cute. The moses baskets are perfect too... awesome work. The tiny little beanies are.. tiny, geez. Did you knit those as well?
Love the little poly baby.. I enjoy seeing ethnic sculpts.
I would like to sculpt some Maori figures soon actually.
I was wondering how you were getting on with your show plans too.
Hey Fantail.. did you get a chance to play with the Aves yet?
Are you painting the acrylic on fabric? or the clay?
Thanks for the supportive comments... got lots of studies now and I'm sure it will be better with refs. Trying to sculpt a 'good' head using your imagination is a bit hard... haha, and staring at people isn't effective either coz everyone has such different heads and face shapes LOL.
I'm looking forward to it, I love learning.
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Post by jules on Jun 20, 2011 21:50:59 GMT 12
Thanks guys Yes the beanies are hand knitted. I am not great at knitting things, but I seem to be able to manage these simple little hats okay I think I have everything under control for the fair, mostly because I did the Hamilton Doll fair last month, so have everything left over from that. Probably famous last words though and I'll start thinking about all the things I have forgotten To be honest the best part I am looking forward to is that my sister (who sells charms) and I are staying in the Auckland CBD on Saturday and will be hitting the casino, enjoying some cocktails...and no kids - Yay |
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Post by fantail on Jun 20, 2011 22:30:38 GMT 12
Yes I have played with the Aves a couple of times now and carved some back - its quite strong though I was able to snap a thin stick of it, it's not easy to carve or brake as it gets thicker
the acrylic was on fabric
enjoy your weekend Jules
I like the little beanies too
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Post by Donna on Jun 21, 2011 10:10:03 GMT 12
'morning everyone.. Wow you knitted those tiny beanies too Jules... multi-talented people on this forum... ;D All the wee sculpting you lot get up to, I don't know how you all manage such small scale and have so much detail... I hope you have a smooth run for the fair organising. Your Auckland plans sound heaps of fun, great that you will have your Sis to share the mischief.. hehe. Fantail did you know you can get a textile medium to mix with acrylic paint for fabrics? I use Plaid brand.. under $10. It does say on the bottle to basecoat with Folkart thickener to prevent bleeding.. I've never seen that tho' nor used it... I would imagine watery PVA would act as a basecoat. I understand 'flat face' problem now.. (it wasn't THAT bad I don't think, just not 'right') anyways.. it was the base where I went wrong, the baked armature I added to. Remember me saying I will make mini sculls for that.. well I didn't  from now on I will... I don't have Fantails blessed patience so I will try to adjust this one again... (dont want to make more teeth and eyes)... if it doesn't work I'll start again... how much time do we have again?... LOL. |
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Post by blue on Jun 21, 2011 14:22:31 GMT 12
just enough time for me to crack whip on Ya hiney.............. whoaaaaaaaaa! next week........... clay day.. definite MUST!. lets get this party dusted Jules those wee clay babies are so adorable so so so adorable well done you well done on all the round up works for the AK show. lots to do tho a. youll get there lickety split i bet tails............ interesting re epoxy still strong stuff tho a ? have a great day ladies. |
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Post by fantail on Jun 21, 2011 17:18:51 GMT 12
Approx 3 months
I didn't know about the textile medium, but I'd like to try the Genesis since I've seen people use it on canvas, so it should be fine. I have an acrylic thickener, guess I could also try it, but its just distractions
Need a sunny weekend to make some eyes
I thought it would not be so bad Donna - we are our own worst critic
Yip it is nice and strong stuff Blue
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Post by Donna on Jun 21, 2011 17:44:33 GMT 12
Hey Fantail.. hope you had a great day today...
the textile medium just allows acrylic paint to set into the fabric and be washable.. just means you can use artist acrylic paint and not have to buy special fabric paint.. (which of course is acrylic paint with textile medium in it lol)
LOL at cracking the whip at me hiney... ;D
I had a little play with adding more clay to the head today..
I think I've got the idea now, its looking much better.. Blue I have a Jaw now, a BIG jaw.. LOL...
I stopped while the going was good.. still got lots to do but at least it doesn't look like it was hit by the back of a bus now.
That Aves sounds very interesting indeed... cant wait for your conclusion Fantail.
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Post by fantail on Jun 21, 2011 18:39:35 GMT 12
The Super white Aves seems a lots stronger
I made a thin tube and though I haven't really tried to break it I did squeeze and it didn't break as you might expect
I will keep an eye out in the future for the textile medium, thank you Donna
Glad you are making headway with the face
I'm trying to figure out how to pose the hands I want them to be expressive
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Post by Donna on Jun 21, 2011 19:43:55 GMT 12
thanks Fantail.. It will be good to know if it snaps when bent... all the best with hand posing.... I think you sculpt the most exquisite hands..and feet..so no worries with that...  |
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Post by blue on Jun 21, 2011 19:47:53 GMT 12
oh tails you sculpt the most beautiful things................ shesh.
pity we have to wait till september to oogle over oh yerrrr
so glad to hear youve had some clay time to Donna. You did such a fab job with the features you really did. glad there is more face to see now........... oh yerrrrrrrrrr.
gotta run... the wizard is comin
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Post by fantail on Jun 21, 2011 22:02:19 GMT 12
I wasn't happy with last years hands
the prep work is so important not being able to decide means i can't make the armature as strong as I wish
It was just a bit of left over clay that I turned into a tube over the skewer,
It hurt my fingers but I did mangage to break it, though it was about 1mm thick max thinner in parts
the flat bits are easier to break but as a tube it was quite strong
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Post by blue on Jun 22, 2011 6:21:34 GMT 12
hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm interestinger and interestinger
rubs little chin like ho chi min.............
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Post by BLL on Jun 22, 2011 11:06:36 GMT 12
Jules - my ultimate weakness those gorgeous wee babes. *grab - baby abduction*Still at home with Spotty. Don't want to go back to work - ever - but keen to get him to school. Birthday cake   |
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Post by blue on Jun 22, 2011 12:24:29 GMT 12
wow thats SO COOL MUM YOU ROCK! sorry to hear spottys still spotty. hope he heals up fast as a flash poor wee might. but still cant get over hes 5 already omg. so how you doing spottys mum you touched clay this month? you really are a wicked girl and just getting wickider as the years roll on by must touch clay.............muuuuuuuuuuust touchhhhhhhhhh clayyyyyy so says the website nag tee hee hee |
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Post by Donna on Jun 22, 2011 13:13:51 GMT 12
Hellloooo... ;D I've been sitting all morning on my back step.. in the sun... SCULPTING yeeyah!!! bugga the dishes, big messes and things to do... I'm obsessed with getting this face right.. even if it kills me.. (as in starving or stiff necked) Bll.. wicked cake for master 5.. its absolutely amazing as was last years cake.. you have a great talent for cake decorating. Bet your fella was so happy with it. Equally as talented with polymer clay don't forget...  pfffftt not happy with those hands Fantail.. I'd be over the moon if I got hands that perfect.. and I went and had another look at them... drooool - at everything about that sculpt. Fantastic that it took that much pressure to snap the Aves, sounds like it will be strong and flexi enough for what you want. btw I despise black flecks and dark fluff.. and where does orange specks originate, I cant find anything around here 'orange' grrrr. Not to mentioned dirty smears....  ;D Jules those babies of yours have the cutest faces, especially the pink and blue bubs... cuuuute. |
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Post by fantail on Jun 22, 2011 17:43:31 GMT 12
Wow BLL that is a great cake of Gotham city and the bat sign - mmmh wonder what it tastes like ;D
Hope your spotty boy feel better in no time
Muuuuuust touuuuchhhh cluuuuuuyyyyyyyy!!!!
Yip its winter with heater making the air circulate and dark clothing that leaves fluff in every exposed inch of clay- soooo frustrating
bearly have the shapes blocked out and i have to scrape back
the plastic wrap and bags leaves marks so I've placed the parts on some wax paper inside the resealable bag- It seems to reduce those dreaded lines
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Post by fantail on Jun 22, 2011 18:10:46 GMT 12
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all on the up and up.
from now on I will...
;D