Whats happening?

[fantail]

Oh sorry to hear about the burning maybe its the heat of the day too
Hope that's all the burning for the year may there be no more

it bubbles if you mix it right- its suppose to and they still recommend the two cup technique
working time is 25 minutes and Carbon dioxide pops the bubbles
More bubbles you say Donna?
eek I haven't checked them in hours
Off to check on the ooglies

[fantail]

Phew no bubbles yet only in the ecess puddle that was past its working time
Ooh added note
you have to pop the bubles before it starts getting tacky they recommend around the 5min mark but I only started 10 min in and it was still ok, by the 25min it doesn't really work anymore

[Donna]

Well I'm home now.. and I must say I'm pleased I cleaned up those faces, funny.. the faults I tried to cover look minimal to me now LOL!!

The legs I let burn were only those stick things, armature, so I wasn't bothered, I got perverse pleasure in fact..

Resin- I'm guilty of not following rules ( if you hadn't noticed) so I just get a transparent dish and pour equal amounts (by eye) of both products in and mix it with an ice-block stick, always works out so it doesn't seem too fussy. And yeah you'd have to use a bbq lighter if it gets bubbles after workable time. I've scratched the resin on the eyes I have, but I intended to add more resin when I finished anyway.

Ohhh I would like to see the eyes when you've finished Fantail

I'm glad you're fixing up your dollies Blue, I still feel sad after all your work, but at least you're making it better.

[fantail]

Bleh I got a spec of something on the printout of the one I liked
there is one bubble in another and one or two domes that aren't nice but I should still have plenty left ;D
will see if I can take pics tomorrow

[blue]

hm interestingggggggk

do the air bubble just rise or sit? i wonder if it would be ok to drop the resin into an eye mould and then push in the eyeball in and let the bubbles raise around it eventually ending up behind most like inside the divet of the pupil etc......... or maybe just several thin coats???
oh groan Im making it harder again sorry
But well done tho tails its all so fascinating regardless.

so glad you have fresh eyes for your face Donna a break is good a
youll have them whipped up in no time flat at this rate well done you


and my clay.........GROAAAAAN........... its gonna be ok i just hate wasted time and wasted work. just as well they only prototypes cause they looking so horrible would end up straight in the dodgy box for sure otherwise.
I even picked out some glitter from a burnt patch of clay today. lmao. now i truly do know why they start bjd with air dry clays.
Id given iddy a thick coat of that colour match paint. gees there's brush marks even. nothing a sand wont fix. more lessons learned that's for sure tho so its all good in the end.
but my colour match paint seamed quite oily ..... good and thick tho but very oily. is it meant to be like that?

well three cheers to us girls who persevere *GO US*

something to be said for stubborn woman yer baby

[fantail]

It does rise to the surface, maybe if you blow them out then you can drop the eyeball in after 25min, it doesn't actually set for several hours and can take up to 2 days to fully cure

It will depend on the lens thickness, the bigger eyes you might have to do in a couple of layers
I accidentally touch a couple of the lenses while moving them into a box a minute ago, hope I haven't ruined them, they are set just still a bit tacky to the touch

you can do it Blue

[blue]

Oh gees. I guess ( bites nails)


but whilst avoidign all forms of hard work i came across this........hmmmmm interestinger and interestinger



www.instructables.com/id/Emboss-Velvet-with-Rubber-Stamps-and-a-Household-I/

[Donna]

Hey that looks effective... will have to have a better look around there, interesting, thanks Blue.

Fantail, you can save the eyes with doming issues, 'cause you can add more resin once they are cured, just wipe with meths or acetone first. You could use them in a sculpt and add more resin when you finish too.
I know it can be used in doming moulds for embedding etc... another experiment anyone??

I would need to try the clay-match paint another time I think. I didn't like the result I got, but others seem to use it and are pleased with it. Maybe I'm too used to acrylic paints... dunno..
Would be interested in your thoughts when finished Blue..

I didn't tidy-up and got visitors... I'd better take time out to catch up on chores... sculpting is very addictive huh...


Did I tell you I like my feet, haha... yay!!!!

[fantail]

Its a couple of the little ones that the droplet didn't level and I should have dragged it out a little so it has a funny high bead on it. Who knows, if I add resin to the sides and build up its pair, it might be ok but not worried cause I have lots of the small pairs
there was one that ran and I will have to build it up- not sure if I made it deep enough

So glad you are happy with your feet ;D

Oops nearly forgot to say
Blue that link is wonderful - would love to try it
pity the vevlet can't be washed after wards and wonder if it will still work on pan and crushed velvet

[blue]

Velvet------- DROOL !!! exactly what i was thinking i do have a few rubber stamps so am willing to risk a trial it just might mean a little more customization of our dolly's its quite effective anyhow. if its had a prewash and maybe some sort of post burn treatment to preserve it maybe a quick spray with scotch guard or fray-stop or something . ? dunno but it says it can be done on any fabric with raised texture......hmmmmmmmm maybe even some velour's also >?


Donna so glad about your feet. they are tricky little suckers at the best of times so well done you.

and Tails thanks so much for the eye eye infos. i bet they are looking pretty today.

have shopping to do today my baby is 16 tomorrow. so yer. She passed her NCEA also with flying colours and also a few 6th form credits to. go her : )

bbl ladies have a great day.

[fantail]

Well if the velvet is for a dolly they aren't going to need to wash it again ;D

the eye mold will need to be shiney smooth for the lens -I poured excess into a tiny silicon cupcake mold and it came out matte
and it does have loads of micro bubbles but I think that's because of the working time

I just had one bubble in all the eyes I made and I heard you can open it and add resin if you want to fix it

The scrap bit was actually my paint work LOL and doesn't look too bad
I do feel the higher domes will need a thin second coating
not sure if I should just paint the lower domed ones with a gloss all over will have to experiment
But I do like it Alot!
Thank you so much for getting us on to this resin Donna
I need some natural light to take pictures

next time I will try to make the eyeball more translucent

[Donna]

'afternoon you lot ;D

I'm so pleased the resin is working for you Fantail.. I must admit to nervous anticipation until I knew all went okay for you... LOL The eyes sound great.
I was very happy to share my experiment results with you, I hope to contribute more as time goes on..

Aww Blue, your beautiful girl 16 tomorrow... they grow up so fast.. She is a wonderful girl, you must be very proud of her. Great NCEA results Well Done her... ;D



I have to clean....

[fantail]

certainly not perfect but what an improvement to the ones I made with fimo
several probably need a second coating to have the dome the same height as its pair
The smaller eyes are are harder to keep the resin from spreading past the iris while you apply it I will attempt a second coat when I have more iris printouts to fill middle size of about 2 or 3mm eyes


can you spot the pearl paint fleck that I didn't mix enough

A few of the small eye balls I made to big for the iris
I do like that you don't have to make as many pairs to just get one pair of eyes

[fantail]

oops I use a two cup mixing method
Blue is the different from the two cup pouring
is the two cup pouring where you pour the two parts in different cups then combine in a third

the method instructed asked that you combine in one cup then mix after a minute pour in another and mix again

[blue]

Tails You deserve the golden eye award
Lady these all look UTTERLY AND TOTALLY SMASHING !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

well done you. what a lot of work they are sooooooo small but wow WOW wow

youll be itching to add clay to these pretty eyes soon. oh yer baby

they are SO PRETTY !!!



the two cup method is really an oxymoron
you use 4 cups

part 1 cupA mix
part2 cupB mix
add cupA to cupB and mix
when throughly mixed transfer to new cupC and remix
use fresh new cupD transfer resin from cupC to cupD back and forth several times from a height in a fine slow trail from cup to cup.
this eliminates air bubbles. ( put one cup on floor and one cup table height and let it finely run from cup to cup .

seams that youll only use a small amount per time your using what about 5ml? 10 ml? max id use several small spoons back and forth for the bubbles.

the action of pulling the resin ( gravity fed) drags out the resin stretching tiny bubbles till pop.

i use this method with silicone. but normally upto 200 ml at a time so much easier.

I did spot the plastic shot glasses today $2 for 20 odd in a pack. Dont ever reuse containers for mixing any chemistry. even minute residue can hamper setting in the future.


ok rant over

[fantail]

That sounds interesting but a bit of a juggling act LOL or the cup shuffling game ;D
I though the little scratches of pearl or gold paint didn't look good but with the resin on I have changed my mind ;D

the instructions say to use two cups and says that if you don't have bubbles after mixing you didn't do it right. It is not hard to get rid of the bubbles so long you follow the instructions and get rid of them before the 25min working time is up
I mixed about 20ml but I didn't need that much 10ml is plenty and I meassured using a plastic spoon

[blue]

aw well done tails they really are pretty and even tho the photos are great i bet they look much better in life to so tricky working with 3mm

[fantail]

Nah the ones I made - the iris measure 4.8 and 1.8, 1.6mm I need a few 3mm iris printouts cause that is the missing size - see not so tiny

[Donna]

;D What a fantastic outcome, you have done a brilliant job of them.
Heaps of pretty eyes for you to make heaps of beautiful sculpts with. ;D

[fantail]

Thank you Donna and Blue

[BLL]

Hello. You have all been so busy with the clay. Especially you, Blue. Sorry about your oven tragedy, it sounds absolutely heartbreaking.
As for me, I don't think I know what clay is anymore. After the Christmas chaos, we spent 2 weeks painting the exterior of the rental (all but roof), had a birthday to organise for Miss 9 and then took off to Gizzy for 4 days. To top it off we treated ourselves to an xbox w. kinect so we been jumping around the lounge in all our free moments.

Ah well, nice to see what u all up to.

xx

[fantail]

Hi Bll nice to hear from you
sorry your to busy for clay hope you will get some time again
Sounds like you are having fun

[Donna]

;D Hello.

Great to hear from you Bll, sounds like you've been really busy, thats a lot you've achieved and fun too.
Jesse got Kinect for xmas, it is a huge amount of fun, keeps you fit too, and in fits of laughter. Boys now have incriminating photos of Old Biddy jumping around the lounge like an idiot... ;D

It is with huge disappointment and sadness that I tell you....
my marionettes are in the dodgy box
I was going to throw them away so I wouldn't be tempted to keep on trying with them, but now I hope, one day, that I could fix them up.. but at the moment I can't. I feel like a dodgy plastic surgeon.. I have ruined their faces.

I'm sad because I had even chosen their hair and dress styles.


You don't know how much I dislike giving up on something... especially after so much time and effort. But I need to learn to know when something is just not working...

I think I'll start something new - so I can revive the excitement of sculpting again...

[fantail]

sometimes you really need a break from something you are struggling with so that you can attack it a new
Don't feel bad about putting it aside we all have some they are called UFO's (unfinished objects)
Hope you enjoy your next project, maybe draw the clothes for the marionette so that when you get back to them you can pick up where you left off

[Donna]

Thanks Fantail, a UFO box definitely sounds less ominous than a Dodgy box, so they are now 'resting' in a UFO box...

I was having a look around last night, getting some inspiration and I noticed a discussion on removing genesis paint on the OG. Winsor & Newton brush cleaner seems to remove it with no adverse affects to the clay... all might not be lost yet. I will still leave them for now, as you say I probably should take a break for awhile.

I hope all your projects are going well..

These storms are wild, good weather for staying in and sculpting..
;D