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Post by blue on Sept 27, 2010 5:40:29 GMT 12
awwww Donna Im so sorry for being so bossy honestly i honestly don't mean to be, but please do give it a go tho. ;D
next year i might do some sort of progression sculpt with armature exposed to show people part of the process. it might save having to explain it all over and over, its just easier to see as such. visual learners and all.
and yes grandy is cute as a button and yes she will be a 15 inch sculpt soon as.
yaa
but i will be casting her in silicone oh yer baby.
gotta dash .... back latter
xR
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Post by fantail on Sept 27, 2010 10:50:40 GMT 12
Yeay can't wait to see her mini-me Reproducing in silicone is a whole new level. Best of luck with that,I hope it goes well when you get to it  |
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Post by Donna on Sept 27, 2010 11:58:13 GMT 12
Blue, I don't think you're bossy at all, everything you said was right, you were only encouraging me and I thank you for that..plus I'll admit to needing a good boot up the rear end quite often..  haha A sculpt of that gorgeous wee child would be beautiful, especially with how quickly they grow. Brilliant idea for the progressive sculpt too, I'm sure most people don't realise what it actually involves to create these pieces, and it could spark the creative interest in others to have a go. ;D I've added the head clay to the marionettes, but they're sculpted over a nub on the neck (so they can rotate). It worked with the troll 'cause he had a fat head and big features, but on these they look like basketballs hahaha, so still working that out. I'll be making eyes soon so I'll do trials with that resin I was telling fantail about, see how it bakes... Love to all, have a great day.. |
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Post by fantail on Sept 27, 2010 12:18:39 GMT 12
Glad you are letting them know about this- it is a whole other world and if we can solve the moonie problem then newbies might not be discouraged and I might not give up ...yeah right like I will ever stop I know what you mean by the basket ball look- I found that I had to shorten the neck to lessen that effect. Thanks for letting me know how it bakes - hope it doesn't have any fumes when baked |
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Post by blue on Sept 28, 2010 5:44:48 GMT 12
ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo Ive always been so intrigued by marionettes cant wait to see yours already. very very cool stuff ladies. Dont you worry about the comps Donna we are all here to cheer you on and help you get some work out there to be seen. The critics sheet is always gentle and encouraging also. but with every show there are always new people intrigued enough to *give it a go* ITs always just so excellent to see other clay works in person. I mean photos are fantastic etc but to see new pieces in life........yer baby...! and yes , silicone is a whole nuva ball game but im all set to go with it  just a time management issue now ............as always. some pieces will be rotocaste and others solid set, just need practice to perfect the art. mould making really is an art form in itself. anyhow im gonna play with clay today. theres a couple of unbaked projects on the table screaming for attention. hope you all have a wonderful day ahead. and do try and be good you lot ; ) xR |
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Post by fantail on Sept 28, 2010 8:04:18 GMT 12
Good neva Yes you need all your attention to bake them beauties I do hope you perfect the art of reproduction. It will be great if you can reproduce your dolls to your own standards, not that of the commercial world were it's sometimes quantity over quality. I ordered some clay from zigzag and may I say - swiftest and best trade I've ever had. Superb and the shipping wasn't that high either for being so fast. |
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Post by Donna on Sept 28, 2010 9:57:34 GMT 12
;D morning Wow yes, moulding will be a whole new ball game..well worth the effort for you though, progress pics would be great. Yay that you've got time to play with clay today..personally I'm very happy you've got time to play with us now too , love your chats. Not too much time for me to play, school holidays means Mums Taxi Service is on standby, hehe, but I did manage to reduce the basketball heads to somewhat resemble normal size..but I'm having some trouble because I have to keep rotating them (to stop them sticking to neck) PLUS I've now realised (after baking, why always AFTER baking) that the shoulders are too wide, they gonna look like American footballers LOL. I'll have to be creative with the clothes me thinks. Have fun today..  |
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Post by fantail on Sept 28, 2010 10:59:17 GMT 12
A little corn-startch will stop raw clay sticking to other things Yay that you've got time to play with clay today..personally I'm very happy you've got time to play with us now too , love your chats. Ditto |
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Post by blue on Sept 29, 2010 5:43:22 GMT 12
Morning Ladies hope all is well. getting up earlier really does sux at this time of the year. oh roll on proper daylight hours rarrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr poor old eyes feel like bug holes blink! got to mooch some clay yesterday......oh yer baby... school holidays tho and even tho miss is a teen .its still a time tang ha. some more pics. lily yoonah at one month and some of my learning curve tee hee hee Attachments:
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Post by blue on Sept 29, 2010 5:44:08 GMT 12
two part face moulds Attachments:
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Post by blue on Sept 29, 2010 5:45:15 GMT 12
and an army of 10 inchers caste in forton acrylic gypsum resin Attachments:
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Post by fantail on Sept 29, 2010 7:29:55 GMT 12
Awe Lily is too cute , give her a cuddle for me
that looks like a great mold. hehe army of tiny babies
it makes my fingers itch to have a good look
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Post by blue on Sept 29, 2010 8:10:30 GMT 12
the exterior of the first moulds were really ruff as to be honest Ive got to make new mould boxes / frames but it takes a few goes to tidy things up really and get the knack of it but its still workable it just takes so much time.
and the castings. OMG all different colour mixes and technices etc to find out which suited the resin. so so hard. but i have a vacuum and rotocaster now so ummm that will make life much easier that and a very fine .02 nifty snifty airbrush. oh yer baby. Im going to start using it with clay and genesis to. it should make blushing more uniform ? fingers crossed.
so theres two 15 inchers coming. a 20 inch play doll almost completed ( the face midline shifted and i just dont know if i can redeem it without scraping the face off and starting again) and another mini baby almost done. yee gods. Facepalm !!!
i wont even start on the sewing projects. ...... but nice to have the time now to eventually finish these things...........
but its a sunny day today and with luck that will help speed up the motivation......
do have a fabulous day ahead
xR
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Post by fantail on Sept 29, 2010 8:24:26 GMT 12
Wow You are like an energizer bunny!
If you have a photoshop type program you might find out how you can fix the face before you go drastic
ooooh's over the airbrush
You go girl
Hope the sun keeps you going ;D
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Post by Donna on Sept 29, 2010 11:46:35 GMT 12
Your Lily is the sweetest...She is very alert and intent for her age...wise little soul  'Grief girl..thats some serious work you've got lined up, that'll keep you outa mischief, I can't wait to watch the progress. I've dropped a tribe of teens at Rainbows end this morning, not looking forward to picking them up tho'...from northwestern to southern motorway and back at 5pm aaarrrghhh. My choice now is make heaps of eyeballs or do housework I found a trader on Trademe selling tibetan lamb wool, so I've ordered some, cooool. She sells organza silk and angelina film too if you're interested, trading as 'dollworld' or www.dollworld.co.nz *(edited to add website for non-traders) Bugga the housework.. I'm off to make some eyes...fantail I'll make some 'flat' so I can try the resin... |
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Post by fantail on Sept 29, 2010 11:57:51 GMT 12
Hello Donna
I'll be hoping for the best with your eye experiment
I'm going to try some things myself see if sealing the eye printout will be ok for sculpting then later- much later try adding a lens with Magic glos
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Post by Donna on Sept 29, 2010 14:30:48 GMT 12
Well I'm back..not much luck with making eyes so far, I couldn't find my pins until now (maybe I should've done housework ah? hehe) and I wanted to mix translucent with white, I thought I had premo or sculpey-type so looked for that, but I've only got Fimo.
Do you think I should mix Fimo translucent with white premo, or just stick with white?
Hmmm iris print-outs..I forgot about those, maybe I should try them too.
BLLLLL....come out and play!!!!!
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Post by fantail on Sept 29, 2010 15:48:19 GMT 12
I just use white but its a personal choice you might prefer translucent
Hope you have time to play
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Post by Donna on Sept 29, 2010 16:46:02 GMT 12
;D Thanks fantail. I thought it might look more realistic to use translucent with it, but I was concerned about different temp. requirements too. I'll just use white this time, hope to make a start when I get back from Sth Auck. Leaving now, eeeeeek. thanks for your help. |
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Post by blue on Sept 30, 2010 12:03:38 GMT 12
eyes eyes eyes are a pain on so many levels......groan these ones are made with flat nail heads and genesis and pearlx paints then drops of that uv gel so so pretty. Attachments:
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Post by fantail on Sept 30, 2010 12:45:15 GMT 12
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Post by blue on Sept 30, 2010 13:07:40 GMT 12
its much easier than it looks.
the only prob i have is when ive premade them i cant ever get the acrylic to stay clear it always either bubbles or warps slightly or mostly yellows on the second -3rd bake.
so now i leave the acrylic till post bake.
i know people can do it perfectly but i just cant. : (
the nail heads i use are mostly either 2.5 mm or 3 mm so its mentally small area to be painting. and yes i hear you pffffffffting tails at 3 mm.
lmao you could do this with your toes in your sleep ; )
there's a very soft pale blue genesis wash around the iris to blend it into the clay. it makes all the difference.
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Post by Donna on Sept 30, 2010 13:44:16 GMT 12
;  OH WOW, they look sooo realistic. See how the 'white' looks translucent - thats what I meant. As I've only done one set of eyes before (painted) I'm keen to have a go at different methods. I think realistic looking eyes are VERY important. Thats a good tutorial for the painted eyes too fantail, bookmarked for studying closer Blue do you just paint directly onto the nail head and insert it into a white ball? Blue, I was going to check out how the envirotex bakes, because you had mentioned the magic glos reacting to baking. But I'm thinking it would be better to create the dome post-bake myself. |
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Post by fantail on Sept 30, 2010 14:06:19 GMT 12
No way blue
I would never belittle the difficulty of fine/tiny painting
I have always been a bit shaky in that department – literally
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Post by blue on Sept 30, 2010 18:16:21 GMT 12
ok im totally useless at eyes its my biggest thang now days but heres some tips. a touch of blue mixed with the white paint will give the eyeball that translucent look. ( i always end up with yellowed eyeballs at the third bake with unpainted translucent clay- maybe its just my clay?) lift the top eyelid just a fractionwith something very sharp eg blade so you can get the lens edge nicely tucked under _______ otherwise you can end up with an eye that looks filled with gloss to the ridge of the lashes- makes the doll look like shes crying. one would normally make the eyeballs separately before putting into clay but i just cannot manage this.... i put my painted nailheads straight into the clay sculpt before baking. and it helps to swirl the backing colours on then stripe the darker iris with a pin. then just a soft wash of blue around the iris to blend it in. then post bake with the gloss actually Lindyloo had a great tutorial at once stage she was doing fab eyes. where is that woman !!! Attachments:
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haha
OH WOW, they look sooo realistic. See how the 'white' looks translucent - thats what I meant.